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The future of my phpBB templates

Submitted by Jakob on 13 November, 2007 - 18:33.My Blog | phpBB | Templates, Themes and Skins

Many of you have asked me about the future of my templates for phpBB and when they will be ported to phpBB 3, the next version of the popular forum system. After much thinking and considering of my own priorities, I have found two ways to go ahead but I need your feedback. Please read this post and post your own thoughts as comments.

As most of you know, I have designed five highly popular themes for phpBB. There have been probably close to half a million downloads of these since 2002, not a bad number for a few designs which I just happened to make.

As popularity has grown, and as phpBB has developed faster, releasing security updates every second month, requiring me to spend considerable time and effort keeping these templates up to date, my interest in doing so has waned. The work of supporting these, responding to requests and emails has become something that takes considerable time and energy from tasks I consider more important in my life.

To port the current templates for phpBB2, doing it the way I imagine it should be done, transform them from their current state to something I could call outstanding would take close to a full month of full time work. In reality, it would take me three months since I never have the luxury of only focusing at one single thing at a time.

In my world, theres not the possibility of just porting them as they are, producing a decent or half-assed result. These themes are my creation and nothing short of spectacular would be good enough for me. So its either that one month, in other words at least 120 hours of work, or nothing at all.

Given the projected release date of phpBB3, which I expect around Christmas, and my current life situation being a half-time student as well as co-owner of a successful web development consulting firm, I have come to accept that theres not enough time to port these themes to phpBB3. Even if I would miss the release date of phpBB3 I doubt I would ever get the time, or have the energy, to actually get it done. Its unpaid work and sadly I cannot spend 120 hours or more doing freebies for people, its neither something I want nor can do.

Considering these circumstances, there are two ways to go and they arent mutually exclusive. I havent made up my mind yet, not until Ive heard what you think. So, before I go ahead, Id like to collect some thoughts from you who use my designs. Please read my plans and post comments below.

Public release

The first way, which I have considered for a long time now, is to release the templates to the public, for purposes that I are outlined further down. However, my main reason for doing so is simple: Id rather people took what Ive made and turned it into something useful than the files sitting on my hard drive unused.

Funded development

The second way is to let those of you who want me to port these themes to phpBB 3, and to what I consider the level of spectacular, fund it together. The reason to this is that my willingness to do work for free has a limit, a limit in terms of personal attitude as well as time available.

A lot of you use my designs, a lot of you ask me for features and when version x will be done. A fraction of you have have sent me emails, thanking me. Im always delighted to hear from you, and your words are important. An even smaller fraction has actively donated a little money. The symbolism of your gift, regardless of its size, means a lot to me. These expressions and gifts have been two the reasons why Ive wanted to go on, until recently.

For me to seriously consider putting down the not-so-small effort of updating and upgrading these designs, it needs to work out financially for me as well. Besides releasing these to the public, Id also like to open the possibility of you funding development. If many enough people show interest, I will set up a fund, a fixed amount for each template and once it has been reached work will begin.

The exact terms are yet to be worked out. An idea Ive had is to make contributors eligible for certain special features or goodies and access to graphics source files for the design work they fund.

If you use one, or several, of my templates and feel youd like to support keeping them outstanding, allowing them to raise them to the next level, contact me or post in the comments below and express your support and make sure you leave your email address (dont worry, spammers cant get it). I will contact you all once Ive got an idea of how much interest there is.

Purposes of a public release

For a public release, I have looked at using Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 2.5 License with additional restrictions and terms. I think its important I explain the background and the purposes for such a release because any use of the publicly released files must be done with the purposes and background in consideration, and in so doing, respecting my wish and intentions.

My purposes for releasing the themes can be summed up in the following points:

  • Avoid leaving forum owners stranded without an upgrade path when phpBB 3 goes gold (i.e. the stable release 1.0 is made), allowing them to upgrade themselves and also share their work with the rest of the world.
  • Contribute to the world of forum designs by providing source files and something people can build on to make their own designs.
  • Retain copyright of these themes while allowing people the freedom to modify and create derivatives of my designs and release these themselves and be credited for their work for the purpose of attribution.
  • Forbid commercial exploitation of my work such as direct selling or leasing of my themes, or any ports (to website templates, content management systems or forums or anything else) or derivatives of these themes in whole or in part, while still allowing themes to be used on forums or sites owned by companies, organizations or individuals who make money off their site, directly or indirectly, however not making it from the theme itself.
  • Forbid modification of my themes, adding links, banners or similar, and redistribution of them for promotion or search engine optimization purposes and monetary gain.
  • Ensure attribution for my work. If you distribute the original themes or a porting, modification or derivative work of the original themes, you must make sure they display a certain piece of HTML code that fulfills the attribution requirement of the license. This piece of code may not be modified for any other purpose than keeping it clearly visible nor may it be obfuscated or made hard to read.

Your feedback

I have yet to decide on an exact course of action. First Id like to know what you think. I will make my decision in a few weeks time. Until then, you have a chance to post your thoughts as comments (see below).



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Submitted by Athena (not verified) on 18 November, 2007 - 02:10.
I would be willing to pay a fee or donate for you to continue working on your fabulous themes. I use them for the PHP-Nuke.
Submitted by Paul1 (not verified) on 20 November, 2007 - 00:25.
I'd be willing to pay, depending on the amount we have to raise. If it's going to take a lot to get the themes done, I'd say open them up for modification by others, since I would rather see them ported to PHPBB 3 than not.
Submitted by Jakob on 20 November, 2007 - 01:05.

Like I wrote in the post, the two ways are NOT mutually exclusive. The themes will be released under certain terms but I also offer people the chance to raise money to have me do the work to ensure the new themes aren't just ports of the old ones but standards based CSS layouts, entirely semantic XHTML and outstanding looking designs. Perhaps there's even someone who wants to sponsor the work as a favor to the community. I am open to ideas.

I estimate the required amount is around 1,750 USD (or 1,200 EUROs) per theme. Every contributor will need to contribute a certain minimum amount ... once I know there's enough people being interested, I'll know how much that will be.

Also, you forgot to leave your email address so I cannot inform you about my decision.

Submitted by Paul1 (not verified) on 29 November, 2007 - 03:05.
If thats the case, then I'd be willing to pitch in some cash for Chronicles. There's really nothing else like it out there, I've been holding back the upgrade of my forum to Phpbb 3 because of the lack of fantasy theme'd templates that look good, Chronicles is the best of the best in my opinion.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 24 November, 2007 - 08:18.
I wouldnt mind paying but wont be interested in the least if the one restriction above is saying that I cannot ad my google Adsense ads to the overall header and footer. Is that that case or not?
Submitted by Jakob on 25 November, 2007 - 17:34.
What I am saying is that you may not alter a template and add a text link or banner or other form of advertising and then make the altered version available for download, for promotion or commercial purposes. What your own site is concerned, you may do whatever you want save removing the attribution statement.
Submitted by Vadim P. (not verified) on 25 November, 2007 - 03:55.
Please release them under the CC license. The two aren't mutually exclusive at all - so those who really like your current themes, but don't have the skills to port them to phbb3 can simply pay you, and others in the community who can will continue to work on your themes.
Submitted by Jakob on 25 November, 2007 - 17:36.

From my post:
"Considering these circumstances, there are two ways to go and they arent mutually exclusive."

You just repeated the point of my post! :)

Submitted by Camus (not verified) on 25 November, 2007 - 21:19.
Hi Jak's, For years ago, i have contacted you about chronicles rank's :) (thx ^^) I understand your post, your templates are so fabulous, Chronicles is the best for me !!! Why not use allopass system ? 50.000 people pay 1 allopass, you receive 50.000. For me, it's a solution for paying your job ;o)
Submitted by Jakob on 26 November, 2007 - 16:32.
Thanks for the suggestion! I don't need to raise that much money, just enough to cover my expenses. And I doubt there are 50 000 people who would donate, perhaps one hundred. But 100 people donating 12 euros would be all it takes.
Submitted by Mitchell Bumgardner (not verified) on 26 November, 2007 - 02:48.
I wouldnt mind paying a small fee to see chronicles re-released.
Submitted by DiaG (not verified) on 27 November, 2007 - 17:37.
I am willing to contribute cash to fund the redesign of the Solaris phpbb3 theme and also your other works.
Submitted by Nelly (not verified) on 28 November, 2007 - 17:44.
Hello there, I really appeciate your work, I would be willing to donate 15 Euro's towards the Chronicles theme, I may be able to gather other interest from the people that currently use our phbbb2 board - we are currently testing out the latest stable beta phpbb3.
Submitted by predatormc (not verified) on 2 December, 2007 - 14:35.
I would certainly think about donating an amount for to see Solaris for phpBB3. I have used the theme for phpbb2, but unfortunately it was the only thing I miss now I've moved the forum over to phpBB3. It is a fantastic template. If enough wasn't raised it would be nice to see released under a CC licence, but like you say, the two aren't mutually exclusive, both a paid and a CC release of the files would be marvellous.
Submitted by Jakob on 4 December, 2007 - 04:00.

People who donate will have access to the theme before the rest of the world, and I'll probably let them leak it to their friends before I make it available. After all, they paid for it.

The funded theme will be released under the same terms as the phpBB2 version of the themes.

Submitted by Phil (not verified) on 4 December, 2007 - 18:06.
Would love to see Chronicles released for v3 and would happily donate some cash.
Submitted by Lastof (not verified) on 5 December, 2007 - 03:13.
I'd certainly be willing to chip in something to see Solaris redone for phpBB 3.0 to the level of outstanding. I'm currently running a "stop my users complaining" version that I threw together (all following the terms of your licsence that came with Solaris. No redistribution, and "Design based on Solaris phpBB2 theme by Jakob Persson, Copyright 2003-2007 Jakob Persson " at the bottom linked to you), which is mostly just CSS changes to prosilver (I think only 3 actual template files were changed from their prosilver state). However, it was always just a make ends meet until you released a version sort of thing. Quick and dirty. If you don't manage to get a new version done, well, then I will have to think about either putting some real work in, or just designing my own style from scratch, both of which would both mean a lot of time, which I (like you) don't have much spare of. So, a small investment would certainly make alot more sense from my point of view.
Submitted by Jondesu (not verified) on 14 December, 2007 - 19:24.
I would be willing to donate to see Solaris updated, but I'm not able to at the moment. If you could release it publicly, though, I could update it for my own forums, then await eagerly the official version from you if you did receive enough in donations. I think both options are good, so I would love to see them both made available.
Submitted by Jakob on 18 December, 2007 - 09:35.
Just be aware that "backseat ride along" plan might not work, not right away. The "deluxe" release will be made to those who have donated first. They may then choose to share it with their friends. It wlll spread organically and it will probably take a month or two before you can put your hands on it. I think this is a necessary incitement and reward for chipping in.
Submitted by Jondesu (not verified) on 19 December, 2007 - 16:18.
Yeah, I completely understand. Wouldn't expect to not help cover the cost and still get the same benefits. I can wait though, so that's not an issue. jW
Submitted by Jakob on 19 December, 2007 - 18:24.
I'd like to ask you though, if you cannot afford to donate 15 USD along with many others to get this done, how can you pay for hosting your site at all?
Submitted by Tim Dobson (not verified) on 15 December, 2007 - 00:04.
Personnally, i would release them under GNU GPL v2, and then encourage a fan of the to upgrade the to phpBBv3.
Submitted by Jakob on 18 December, 2007 - 09:35.
I've considered it, but CC ShareAlike is better for my needs and intentions.
Submitted by Jaraeth (not verified) on 16 December, 2007 - 08:02.
I love your Solaris template, and while I do have to modify it for my phpBB modifications to work, I would be of mind to pay for your template... and as with any product up for purchase, if the price is reasonable for the quality and expected life duration of the product. Personally, if you never modified it much beyond getting it completed for the initial release of phpBB 3.0, then I'm sure I could modify the code enough to work with any further security releases and changes phpBB makes to their side. To me, it's the initial work of porting it that I don't have time for.. so I understand your own situation here as well. Just name the price.
Submitted by Jakob on 18 December, 2007 - 09:37.
I have no doubt the existing Solaris will be ported by someone, it's just that I want to turn it into something more than it is now but I don't have time to do that, not in the nearest future. Why I offer people the chance to chip in and support development work to speed up the process.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 16 December, 2007 - 12:54.
do what i did and hand them over to another designer - I don't have the time or inclination to port all of my themes (12 in my case) to phpbb3, and I also have no confidence in the whole forum concept having much more of a lifespan. Forums attract trolls, moaners, whiners and above all else spammers/spam bots. Most people in need of web development these days avoid forum software and are more interested in blogs/comments and support areas.
Submitted by Jakob on 18 December, 2007 - 09:40.
Yeah I would if I knew someone whose skills were adequate and whom I trusted. Unfortunately I don't. I can be very demanding and I have a very detailed picture of what I want. These themes are my babies and I won't let them go. I think their success stems from them being the way I made them, allowing someone else to mess with them won't work.
Submitted by Kermit (not verified) on 19 December, 2007 - 23:35.
I'm using the chronicles Styles for my Forum, cause it fits perfect. And one of the reassons why I still not changed into phpBB3 it's the theme. I'm not good enough to made a style like this, but if you need little help, maybe I can help.
Submitted by Robin (not verified) on 22 December, 2007 - 13:00.

I'd be willing to donate for solaris, no problem. I think you underestimate the power of these themes for your business though. Not only do you probably have a lot of traffic from various forums but you probably get a lot of clients because they saw one of your themes. It's basically 'free' advertisement for you all over the web.

Looking at the above replies it's basically Solaris and Chronicles that are in high demand to be updated. I've updated my forum to the new version for various reasons but everyone misses the Solaris theme.

Maybe it's a better idea to charge for the released theme itself (something like 15 euro / 20 dollar). In the long run this will probably earn you more and will also give you the incentive to keep it supported and updated.

In any case, I hope you keep up the good work and have a nice Christmas :)

Submitted by Jakob on 25 December, 2007 - 03:09.

If you look at the terms above, you will see that I require attribution, so even the new releases, whoever made them, will link back to my site. This is exactly the way it is now so nothing will change in that regard.

However, people are prepared to pay less for custom forum design than you may think, and not very often the kind of rate I need to ask to stay afloat financially. There's just not enough business in the forum design industry which is why I've changed direction, and priorities.

I'll consider the fee you're suggesting, it's a good idea!

Happy Holidays to you all! Christmas Eve is over, it's the big day here in Scandinavia, it's when the tree is taken in and the kids get their gifts from Santa who comes to your house with a big sack of presents and asks "have you been nice this year?" before handing them out.

Submitted by Seishin on 5 January, 2008 - 12:50.
I've been using Solaris for years now. I'd pay for it. Lets do this thing.
Submitted by HennerPoo (not verified) on 6 January, 2008 - 00:46.
Ill donate or pay for Chronicles
Submitted by Anonhyronymous (not verified) on 7 January, 2008 - 18:11.
Well to be honest i have just startet using forums. I had a good look through Google looking for phpbb templates that look somewhat good... And I tell you, I was shure in for a shock, finding out that for the Forum system i wanted to use (allthough i looked for a well used system,with community and a lot of nice addons) there were NO nice, good, or stylish designs. I would have made a template myself, but as stated before I am new to phpbb, forum and even php itself. But by searching ALL templates (to find the most accepteble one) i suddenly came across a really nice template, and then suddenly again, and again... Guess what... They all were YOUR designs... ALL! Now he point I am trying to get to is, I sadly have no Money at the moment because I am unemployed. By the way its not really my fault, so dont flame the poor "workless"^^ I would gladly pay a part of the needed, but it is simply impossible with my financial situation. I am one of many Leechers in the Internet, and a am NOT very proud of it. Non to be changed at the moment though... But a big problem is there are many people like me, and i dare to say the a respectable lot of these people are not fault at there situation. (Shure, there will allways be foul apples who simply dont want to work, but not everyone is that way...) Without people like you, people like me would not be able to be as creative as we woluld like to be. Or build up Communities... Or by use of other free stuff like progs and other things... People like you use a big part of there time to help others, by giving the th one who knows nothing about webdesign a ready template... By giving the Beginner something to build on an learn from... By giving someone poor something for free... This is a noble an friendly attitude that so much more people should have... (Like everybody helping everybody and other silly dreams^^). Dont misunderstand me, this is not a text for asking you to make the port for free... No it is not! This Text is supposed to be a big big THANKYOU in the name of anybody who has used your templates, it has been a honour to use your work and good designs! /bow Not many people do so good work and dont think about money making about it... I shure hope you never loose that attitude, but by not making the port you will loose no sympathy, its your Life, and by allready helping People that amount, you have nothing to worry leaving anyone in the ditch. Well, A great THNAKYOU from me for your work! greatings, Anonhyronymous
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 7 January, 2008 - 18:28.
We ported it, not hard. Just get it up. Keep your fans happy. http://www.runevillage.net/ThePub/
Submitted by Jakob on 14 January, 2008 - 19:16.

Looks good, and it's exactly what I mean by a basic port. Under the terms I propose, you'll be welcome to distribute that ported version.

However, it's nowhere as good as the designs I have on my hard drive or the kind of theme I think Chronicles for phpBB3 should be. As a designer, you always develop and grow your skills and a lot happens in five years!

I want to offer people the chance to, in return of a small amount, have something more than the old basic Chronicles.

Submitted by Gilgamoth (not verified) on 15 January, 2008 - 22:43.

I'd buy Solaris for $10-$15. I've been using it for a while and I've held off migrating to phpbb3 because of the lack of styles available.

Keep up the good work..

Gil

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 18 January, 2008 - 00:34.

I love your themes and I use them in my forum. I'm a webmaster for passion, and I contribute in the developement of an OpenSource project, so I can understand your feelings. However I think I'll never pay templates. Yours are really wonderful, but that's not enough... I'll never ask money to people that uses the functions and the code that I created, because I did it for free... I don't know if your thoughts are like mine, but I think you are wrong in asking a minimum amount of money.

But this are just my thoughts...

Sorry for my bad English (I'm Italian)
Keep working for us

Submitted by Jakob on 18 January, 2008 - 12:40.

If you think doing work for free is what matters, there's probably something about open source you do not understand - it's not about giving things away for free, it's about freedom!

To use a common analogy, "Free Software" isn't free in the same sense that beer can be free.

I do not ask for people to pay me what I have already made available, in fact I am going to soften the terms of use for my existing templates and make them even more available to the community.

Problem is, there won't be new improved versions of my themes in the foreseeable future unless my work is somehow recompensed. Point is, people have no obligation to donate, nor do I have an obligation to put in hundreds of hours of work without compensation.

If you think my position regarding how I should spend my own time is somehow morally questionable, you're entitled. We all have different priorities, but you cannot make demands unless you make an effort in return. If people really want to see these themes improved and ported - and soon - it's up to them to make it possible for me.

The way I see it, it's a matter of freedom and choice, and the arrangement I am proposing ensures the freedom of everyone involved.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 4 February, 2008 - 17:42.
Do you really think that? There can be people that don't have enough money to support you, even if they want to... Although, I respect your point of view!
Submitted by Jakob on 5 February, 2008 - 13:39.

They can wait, or do the work themselves. The "deluxe themes" will circulate eventually. You could also go together with a few friends and raise the money together. As long as enough money is raised I'm fine with it.

I've been really busy this year but I'm finalizing the details right now. I'll raise money for all themes at the same time, the first theme to pass the limit (what it will be and how this will be done is yet to be decided) will be the first theme I start work on.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 8 February, 2008 - 13:47.
Ok, I'll never behave like that, but your decision is taken and it's not so bad. I pray you to be quick in decisions, because I (and not only I) really need one of your themes (personally, the Cobalt 2)... Thanks a lot!!
Submitted by Jakob on 9 February, 2008 - 04:43.

Interesting choice of words there: "behave like that". The word behave can carry very negative connotations, especially in statements like "how you can behave like that!". :)

If you really want that theme done soon, you can chip and help spreading the word, perhaps asking your own forum members to contribute.

I'll set it up soon but I'm very busy with work at the moment.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 28 February, 2008 - 23:16.
Sorry, I used "behave" because I do not know English very well!! Ok, thanks!
Submitted by Kurt (not verified) on 19 January, 2008 - 17:44.

Hi !

I really like the Solaris theme, and would have no problem donating 10-100$ for a port to V3.
Have you made a decision yet about how you will handle donations ?

Submitted by Guille (not verified) on 25 January, 2008 - 11:49.
Is it just me who thinks JustFooty must be a priority? I havent upgraded to phpbb3 just because of it. Willing to pay $10-15 even whe I live in a third world country. Also having Adsense placement in consideration would be something sweet to have, and maybe the difference between paid and free versions, along as an encouraging feature for webmasters to pay.
Submitted by Alexander (not verified) on 28 January, 2008 - 15:10.
I am willing to contribute cash to fund the redesign of the SolarisTheme. I hope you keep up the good work.
Submitted by GASKA (not verified) on 28 January, 2008 - 15:29.
Hello, as a lot of people, i really like the theme JustFooty. I've been using it for several years. But with the release of phpbb3, i want to upgrade to this version but for the moment the theme Just Footy is not release. If needed i will pay a little to have the ppbb3 version of Justfooty (~20$) , it's not a problem for the work you will make. So Jakob, just tell us if you think you 're going to upgrade or not your phpbb theme to version 3. Thx
Submitted by Pirate (not verified) on 7 February, 2008 - 08:22.
Count me amongst those who'd be willing to donate towards JustFooty release. And I'll let you date my sister if it were to become available by April. Keep up the good work, JP!
Submitted by Ron (not verified) on 21 February, 2008 - 18:49.
Currently, one of the communities that I maintain is a gaming community. It's currently on phpBB3 but using an awful theme for what the community is about. I've used Solaris before on phpBB2 (different community), and it was brilliant, so I know what you're capable of. I would definitely contribute towards development of your phpBB3 themes. Not only for the benefit of my gaming community (they deserve a decent theme), but also for the benefit of all who would use your themes in the future. :)
Submitted by Pirate (not verified) on 26 February, 2008 - 18:18.
Ahhh, feel the love. So Jakob, it would appear to have a good consensus of parties willing to ante up for your efforts. When you have a moment, please let us know if you are in fact planning to move ahead with this. Thanks in advance.
Submitted by Markus (not verified) on 28 February, 2008 - 10:57.
I use your "Chronicles"-template for a phpBB 2 forum. The only reason I didn't update the forum to phpBB 3 is your template. Or better: The missing template for phpBB 3. So yes, I would be willing to pay for the template! Count me in. Let's say: 10,00 Euros. (15,00 at the most!) Thanks
Submitted by John Hanner (not verified) on 12 March, 2008 - 05:05.
I know of a forum that desperately needs Chronicles for phpBB 3. I'd be willing to donate 15 USD. Thank you.
Submitted by Johny Iversen (not verified) on 12 March, 2008 - 18:06.

Hi Jakob

I've been using your template "Chronicles" at a free forum host a while back, and at that time did not know of you, because it was just one of the standards to choose between.

Now, making a new forum for a gaming community, I've been searching all over the nets for a decent "ancient looking" theme, and then I remembered the theme we had, and thought that it could work.

Took me some time reading down to this point (read all your replies I think), and I completely agree with your descission. I know all too well, how free work can be way more time consuming than one really has the time for.

I'd just like to leave in a few cents of my own:

  • I think the reason why people aren't that glad to pay for design, is because there's a lot more to a forum than "just" design, and so, even though people can afford hosting, they might not be able to afford to pay that much for what is only a small part of their budget. E.g. I have hosting that allows me to have several domains for no extra cost, and thus, having to pay for forum design on only one of the forums I might be hosting, would be very expensive, in the sense that there's many other things to prioritize too, just as you're prioritizing your time on something else than free forum designs. :)

    I have a very strict budget too (being a student and all), but if the payment isn't too expensive, yes I would chip in, because I think your design is great as is, and I would so love to see what improvements you plan on bringing to it. :)

  • My problem is now though, that the only thing I lack now for my forum to go live, is the design, so I'm somewhat in a hurry, and therefore I'd be more than happy to "just" go with a quick conversion, until the full release comes out. Do you by any chance have links to sites where I can download such a version (I saw one guy linking to their forum, but nowhere to download the design)?

Anyways, keep up the good work! :D

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 20 March, 2008 - 17:05.

money is a scarce commodity in my life right now. that being said, I can understand you're not wanting to work for free. I can't pay vast sums of money, but I'd donate what I can. I love your solaris and space pilot. I do hope you'll make them available for phpbb3

Submitted by shadow2442 (not verified) on 20 March, 2008 - 17:43.

spacepilot theme for phpb3 would be worth $50 for me... no questions asked...!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 27 March, 2008 - 02:51.

Would pay to get this template for phpBB 3. I am using it on a football (soccer) web site and will probably stick to phpBB 2 until there is a new one. I am not able to find anything better.

Submitted by Jakob on 31 March, 2008 - 09:32.

It seems clear that there's great interest in doing what I proposed. I'll make a formal statement in my blog in a few days.

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